AND ALSO SEXUALLY AND PHYSICALLY [7] He said that he accepted the sentence and would not appeal. This case bugs me. Fritzl has confessed to imprisoning his daughter in a windowless cellar for 24 years and fathering her seven children, one of whom died. Ohhh you are a funny one dear.”, b) The laundry he was bringing back and forth from the ‘shed.’, “More clean sheets Josef? She was a mid-40s woman, married, may or may not have been educated to be anything more than a domestic, and therefore, expected to live a life of submission to her husband. Rosemarie was never their mom. Wide exterior of the Wagner-Jauregg psychiatric clinic 2. One dies after less than 3 days and Fritzl removes and. Rosemarie Fritzl. Rosemarie Fritzl. At last Rosemarie, the hapless Austrian wife, has chosen to act. discovery was made of a similar situation 2 [7], Following the fourth child's birth in 1994, Fritzl allowed the enlargement of the prison, from 35 to 55 m2 (380 to 590 sq ft), putting Elisabeth and her children to work for years digging out soil with their bare hands. have said something to herself like, say …. I’d at least ask a few questions and/or nag him to death. time and while there she was repeatedly [36][37], In a report by forensic psychiatrist Adelheid Kastner, Fritzl's mother is described as unpredictable and abusive. [7][1][29][30] In 1972, he purchased a guesthouse and an adjacent campsite at Lake Mondsee. by the individual who had also kidnapped her. I couldn’t have agreed more with the original post AND couldn’t agree more with you here, it is now 2010 and still no further investigation into this most bizarre claim of hers. if that convicted-rapist husband I married In addition, it also needs to be stated that no person She must literally have two fucking brain cells to rub together. She pimped her daughter out to her rapist husband in order to keep him home and providing her with her ritzy lifestyle. she had been repeatedly raped the entire time It might or might not be relevant that the imprisonment is, alas, more peculiar than the rape. Rosemarie (who shares a name with both Rosemarie West AND Josef Fritzl – guilty!) monster (and his devil wife via her complicity of She appears to have inhabited that place I don’t understand (and have an overwhelming desire to inflict my own pummeling) in which abused women stay with their abuser. I’m a 1st generation American having come from parents with about four years of education in total from a then 3rd world country with very little history and or events to help define sociological maturity in their lives and my mother although submissive to her husband would undoubtedly be curious as would any mother with more than one brain cell. In Biographical Summaries of Notable People . I could have behaved a lot worse than locking up my daughter. It would be agony. was “blind, deaf and dumb” (as far as noticing or caring Would anyone even be remotely surprised Rosemarie Fritzl. The Fritzl property in Amstetten is a building dating from around 1890. Thanks for a well-written and thought out post on this. I’d like to point out a few things noted in the court case:-. But what kind of mother wouldn’t risk her life to save her child’s? at the age of 18 (an age when she can both make http://www.zimbio.com/Josef+Fritzl/articles/-T588457yRo/Mentally+ill+Daughters+Sex+Prisoners+41+Years. And — just like in the Fritzl case — the authorities Leute von heute Aktuelle Promi-News ... Seine Ehefrau Rosemarie will davon nichts mitbekommen haben. In 1959, after Fritzl had married and bought his house, his mother moved in with them. 1) Christine (Rosemarie’s sister) said that all the family knew that Fritzl withdrew for hours to his “cellar” at the back of the garden – the site of his workshop and office, and of the well-hidden entrance to the dungeon. girl to spend the next 8 years making futile plans and attempts to escape When I initially read the early reports of how and when this bunker was constructed, my first thought was “How did his wife not suspect anything with the entire backyard being dug up, twice? . about her convicted-rapist husband and his doorstep of very home that she tried to run away as a child has also mysteriously disappeared It seems to me from what I read—-that most people in Austria do not buy into her claim of innocense. . husband’s stories were just far too incredulous In 1983, building inspectors visited the site and verified that the new extension had been built according to the dimensions specified on the permit. That would teach him to keep secrets from me. The other three of Elisabeth's children who were raised by their father are being treated for anger and resentment at the events. Often he stayed there for the night and did not allow his wife to bring him coffee. We could speculate for years, and likely will. The electrical engineering technician would enter the basement prison through a small hidden door at his home, opened by a secret keyless entry code. The children, along with their mother, also have made day trips, including swimming outings, on which care was taken to keep them out of reach of the paparazzi and to protect their privacy. "Your compassion is helping us greatly to overcome these difficult times, and it shows us there also are good and honest people here who really care for us. years earlier – she then had NO excuse to not (15 Mar 2009) 1. From what I’ve read, Rosemarie’s reason to live (during and since the dungeon exposure) was ‘her’ children. Fritzl repeated his story about Elisabeth being in a cult, and presented what he claimed was the "most recent letter" from her, dated January 2008, posted from the town of Kematen. This is more likely than not the mindset she was affixed with as are MANY Austrians. to have finally left in order to join some sort of to cries to pipe-clanging can be heard from that A tenant who rented a ground-floor room in the house for twelve years claimed to hear noises from the basement, which Fritzl explained were from the "faulty pipes" or the gas heating system. [45], After the trial, Elisabeth and her six children were moved to an unnamed village in northern Austria, where they were living in a fortress-like house. Why are the mainstream press complicit with the police in ignoring the obvious? rest on beaches in Italy while on months-long holidays. They also needed treatment to help them cope with all the extra space that they now had in which to move about. [13][14] The police reopened the case file on Elisabeth's disappearance. Mayer forwarded extracts from the minutes of his talks with his client to the Austrian weekly News for publication. [45], Besides the video testimony, Elisabeth's older brother Harald testified and said that he was physically abused by Josef as a child. ( Log Out /  her father and even bring charges against him); the that there are other people on the planet who Change ). go ANYWHERE NEAR the mysterious basement It appears to me that Austria has a complex, maybe relating to it’s role in the Holocaust, but at any rate, as an example; if Austria were an individual person I’d say there were blows to self esteem and the need to project a ‘we’re ok’ image while at the same time maintaining strong barriers of self protection. The trial of Josef Fritzl commenced on 16 March 2009, in the city of Sankt Pölten, presided over by Judge Andrea Humer. He was also charged with rape, incest, kidnapping, false imprisonment and slavery, which carry a maximum 20-year term.[7]. I’m angry today and so I’m venting. I can appreciate how impassioned this story has made you – I just feel you place blame squarely in the wrong place. about her own creature-comforts and keeping up It was located behind a shelf in Fritzl's basement workshop, protected by an electronic code entered using a remote control unit. The investigators are really dropping the ball, to say the least, by not further questioning this woman as an accomplice to multiple heinous crimes. [48] She did not plan to see her father again. Felix is born. During captivity, Kerstin tore out her hair in clumps, and was reported to have shredded her dresses before stuffing them in the toilet. It appears that this refusal-to-testify may be rooted This story gained worldwide attention five years ago, and I told the family’s life of hell here. It has also been revealed that normal everyday occurrences, such as the dimming of lights or the closing of doors, plunge Kerstin and Stefan into anxiety and panic attacks. In order to reach this door, five locking basement rooms had to be crossed. Fritzl reportedly began abusing Elisabeth in 1977 when she was 11.[5]. made a lot of money and Rosemarie Fritzl was able to, Elisabeth Fritzl er i dag 51 år og bor formentlig et hemmeligt sted i Østrig med sine seks børn, som hun fødte under det 24 år lange mareridt. In 1956, at age 21, he married 17-year-old Rosemarie (born 23 September 1939), with whom he had three sons and four daughters, including Elisabeth, who was born on 6 April 1966. b**tch of a wife of that MONSTER KNEW!! April 2008, kamen Josef Fritzls Verbrechen ans Tageslicht. She knows her husband is a sexual predator, and he goes to Thailand every-so-often. Has she asked herself this? — Rosemarie Fritzl absolutely REFUSED to testify [62] According to Josef's sister-in-law, Christine, Elisabeth enjoys spending her time shopping, taking frequent showers, and driving. Not to mention the fact that experts have testified http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8089697.stm, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-563801/Sex-slave-dungeon-I-knew-Fritzl-raped-daughter-says-man-upstairs.html, http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/danigaravelli/Dani-Garavelli-The-Mother-of.5096567.jp, http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/south-asia/josef-fritzl-started-building-dungeon-when-daughter-was-12_10045546.html, http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-564159/Pictured-The-lucky-Fritzl-daughters-allowed-holiday-sex-slave-Elisabeth-forced-stay-home-monstrous-father.html, http://www.newstatesman.com/europe/2008/04/abuse-survivors-fritzl-rape, http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/mar/19/josef-fritzl-austria, http://freelancemum.blogspot.com/2009/03/elisabeth-fritzl.html. The captives had a television, radio, and video cassette player. “innocence via (alleged) ignorance” and also Bull Shit. Fritzl and the fact that it appears more likely that Fritzl had illegally enlarged the room by excavating space for a much larger basement, concealed by walls. In 1956, at age 21, he married 17-year-old Rosemarie (born 23 September 1939), with whom he had three sons and four daughters, including Elisabeth, who was born on 6 April 1966. Even though Fritzl was an engineer and a domineering husband and father, you can’t tell me that Rosemarie didn’t know that there was a secret cellar underneath her house. By Allan Hall for MailOnline Updated: 06:44 EST, 24 April 2009 Martina Posch 05.12.2014 veröffentlicht Vor 28 Jahren, am 12. silence) did to their poor child – another young girl, Fritzl had assaulted, sexually abused, and raped her numerous times during her imprisonment inside a concealed area in the basement of the family home. Admittedly I haven’t seen my father for over 10 years but I’d like to think that if my Mum kept him in the loft of our family home I would have noticed. Here is a link to another case of decades-long Kerstin is born, and lives in the cellar until 2008. feel that the media and the legal authorities She would leave with her other children (the favorite of whom is also named e) Investigators also indicate that Rosemarie believed her daughter was alive due to a phone call she received from her daughter in 1994. She was found by police within three weeks and returned to her parents. In 1956, at the age of 21, Josef Fritzl married Rosemarie, 17, with whom he had two sons and five daughters. Movies. From the beginning, she could have had them call her grandma. --Kiz o r 14:36, 9 May 2008 (UTC) Comment I am seeing the consensus narrowing to just using the family name - Fritzl case - or perhaps the family name with the location - Fritzl basement case. Cet autrichien a séquestré et violé sa fille pendant 24 ans, lui donnant 7 enfants With no medical assistance, in an underground prison, Elisabeth eventually gave birth to … Note how Elizabeth was upset that her ‘upstairs kids’ kept calling Rosemarie mom. In May 1993, at 9 months old, she is discovered outside the family home in a cardboard box, allegedly left there by Elisabeth with a note asking for the child to be looked after. Like a snausage! I also think she had the brains of a cheese sandwich. The are BOTH sickening monsters and total perverts. The second thing I questioned is that the metal door weighs 300kg (over 660 pounds) and couldn’t possibly have been installed just by Fritzl and Elisabeth. Fritzl, aged 73, was arrested on 26 April on suspicion of serious crimes against family members.[15]. if further investigation later revealed that The Fritzl case emerged in 2008, when a woman named Elisabeth Fritzl (born 6 April 1966) told police in the town of Amstetten, Austria, that she had been held captive for 24 years by her father, Josef Fritzl (born 9 April 1935). Most people there are very upset with her. 10-month-old Monika is found in a pushchair outside the entrance of the house. my convicted-rapist husband also After his arrest, he admitted that he repeatedly raped her. After that came the fall. His mother, my own grandmother told people i was lying about it! 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Nowhere near the price that her daughter and grandchildren had to pay, but a price just the same. [11], On 19 April 2008, Fritzl agreed to seek medical attention after Kerstin, the eldest daughter, fell unconscious. A newer building was added after 1978 when Fritzl applied for a building permit for an "extension with basement". Yes – one would think that – even if this woman [20], Berthold Kepplinger, head of the clinic where Elisabeth and her children were being treated, said that Elisabeth and the three children held captive in the cellar required further therapy to help them adjust to the light after years in semi-darkness. Maybe she loved him? of “contract” with her convicted-rapist husband that The tape is said to have been so "harrowing" that the eight jurors did not watch more than two hours at a time. Fritzl begins to turn the hidden cellar into a prison cell. When it’s just them they have, but as soon as they stay whilst knowing their children are being harmed I want to strangle them myself. Elisabeth was reported to be distraught and close to a breakdown after a British paparazzo had burst into her kitchen and started taking photographs. have at least been suspicious of something Rosemarie Fritzel was married to a monster who was convicted of rape while they were married and stayed married to him!!! What I can’t understand is that why, for 24 years, did she never pick up the phone to the police? But I can try and understand why people stay with abusive partners. at least ‘suspected’ something was amiss!!!). Fritzl referred to himself as an "alibi" child, meaning that his mother only gave birth to him to prove that she was not barren and could produce children. [43][44], On the first day of testimony, jurors watched eleven hours of testimony recorded by Elisabeth in sessions with police and psychologists in July 2008. VILE PERVERT AND ONE CANNOT HELP Critics said his statement may have been a ploy to prepare an insanity defence. I have wondered on many occasions since Elisabeth got out what became of her and her kids who are also her siblings. View the profiles of people named Rosemarie Fritz. just may have had something to do with The children enjoy being outdoors, playing video games, and spending time with their mother and grandmother. about Josef Fritzl and his wife Rosemarie …. with her middle-class appearances than she did Stefan is born. This is the country where sexual sicko’s go to have sex with children—legally. Elisabeth taught the children to read and write. Showing results by relevance, view by Date. THERE IS NO WAY IN GODS GREEN EARTH that if I lived with someone for 24 years I wouldn’t notice that they were supporting six additional individuals in a glorified shed. They knew (were told) their mother had abandoned them. She KNEW that her husband was a sex-pervert — both “phantom” cult (a “cult” which, unlike every other It was discovered that the other young kidnap / #18. Members of the Fritzl family were offered new identities but it was emphasized that it was their choice to make. [40], On 13 November 2008, authorities in Austria released an indictment against Josef Fritzl. incestuous rape while being held in captivity — “Just a peak!” It would be like heroin. Remember that, up until he was discovered, Josef had her convicted rapist-husband was actually NOT and conspiratorial was going on regarding her cult, just somehow, seemingly has no desire to try One thing though; Rosemarie’s sister didn’t speak of her sister’s marriage as a good one. part of herself that she desperately despised and wanted to rid herself by local government authorities in order to install). If my other half had a secret bunker I’d NEED to see it. Anyway the reason I’m angry is the papers refuse to speculate as to her involvement in the case, instead choosing to make non committal statements at the end of each article to the effect of ‘Investigators do not suspect Rosemarie as being aware of his crimes.’ Even if she is innocent as a cherub her complete witless stupidity should be scrutinised under a magnifine glass. [73] Room author Emma Donoghue was inspired by the crimes, and her novel inspired a film adaptation of the same name. [3] The police contacted Manfred Wohlfahrt, a church officer and expert on cults, who raised doubts about the existence of the group Fritzl described. TOGETHER FOR ALL OF ETERNITY!! (which he always keeps locked, disappears to for The caller sounds like Elisabeth, but it is assumed that Fritzl used a recording of her voice. It appears that this refusal-to-testify may be rooted in her fear that her ‘complicity’ in this horror would become obvious to the jury upon cross-examination. of even having to acknowledge it’s mere existence (or presence in life). [33][34], After his arrest, Fritzl claimed that his behaviour toward his daughter did not constitute rape but was consensual. Elisabeth helped him carry Kerstin out of the chamber and saw the outside world for the first time in 24 years. [64] Asylum seekers were offered the house to live in. According to a statement by Fritzl, he kept Felix in the cellar with Elisabeth and her two eldest children because his wife could not look after another child. [52] Fritzl is currently serving out his sentence in Garsten Abbey, a former monastery in Upper Austria that has been converted into a prison. Fritzl had assaulted, sexually abused, and raped her numerous times during her imprisonment inside a concealed area in the basement of the family home. You honestly think she never heard a scream or thump coming from one floor below?

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